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Old 9th June 2008, 01:13 PM
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Default Klondyke Mill Summer Steam Party 8-June-2008


T Green 2054 of 1927, early in the morning.


T. Green 2054 0f 1927, under repair 2 hours later.


Marshall 56125 of 1911.


Burrell 2706 of 1904 'The Admiral Toga'.


Fowler 15787 of 1924 'Cynorthwywr', 10 1/2 Ton Road Locomotive,
nearing the end of it's restoration.


Imported from Chile a couple of years ago, left to right, Marshall 16 NHP PE 46699 of 1907, and on the right, Marshall, with a Britannia firebox, 59393 of 1912.


On the left, A&P 12450 of 1929, and on the right, Marshall 16 NHP PE 46699 of 1907.


Fowler 18507 of 1931 'Morning Star'.


A&P 8316 of 1914 'Lady Hamilton'.


RSJ 14329 of 1902, a 5 NHP PE.

All together there were 17 engines on site, * denotes in steam

A&P 8316*, 9027, 11486* 12450* Burrell 2706, C&S 34980, Foster 14608*,
Fowler, 14758 (covered up), 15337*, 15787 (undergoing restoration), 18507*,
Green 2054, McLaren 127*, Marshall 46699/1907 16 NHP PE, ex-Chile,
59393/1912, ex-Chile,. 56125* RSJ 14329*
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Old 9th June 2008, 01:38 PM
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Great pics and thanks for posting.That Fowler road loco looks a great restoration but very starnge front wheels, are they original or replacements, never seen ones like that before?
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Old 9th June 2008, 01:46 PM
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From what I've been told they are off a Sentinel Elephant tractor and were fitted during the engine's working life

They look different to those on the Elephant tractor in Holland but the same as Dave Maris's

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Old 9th June 2008, 02:19 PM
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Mark, Thanks and as you say definately the same as those on the Sentinel!
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I remember seeing Fowler RL `CYNORTHWYWR ` in Tanners threshing contractors yard at CAERSWS near Newtown in mid - Wales along with another Fowler RL 19338
which the late Frank Holl of Worcester bought . This was in about 1952 . Frank paid
£ 100 for 19338 and called her MONTY after the old county Montgomeryshire.

Everyone thought Frank mad to pay so much for an engine then when the going rate was about £ 25, but Monty is a very late engine on pressed on rubbers and had done nothing
except a few seasons threshing during the war, and prior to that its first owners were the Englefield Estate near Reading. It was only 20 years old and like new.

Tanners offered both Fowlers for about £150 but Frank wasn`t interested in CYNORTHWYWR because of its non-standard front wheels . These, we were told were supplied by Sentinel - what happened to the original wheels I don`t know . Frank did buy a Garrett Tractor from Tanners . Monty was retubed in Tanner`s yard and then driven back to Hartlebury, near Kidderminster, towing the Garrett.

My part in all this was as a young teenager sitting in the firebox, helping to knock the old tubes out and expanding the new ones in - the start of my apprenticeship in steam.

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Old 9th June 2008, 05:29 PM
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The sentinel wheels have been on the engine for over 70 yrs.
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Old 9th June 2008, 06:47 PM
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wat was been done 2 the green roller?

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I remember seeing Fowler RL `CYNORTHWYWR ` in Tanners threshing contractors yard at CAERSWS near Newtown in mid - Wales along with another Fowler RL 19338
which the late Frank Holl of Worcester bought . This was in about 1952 . Frank paid
£ 100 for 19338 and called her MONTY after the old county Montgomeryshire.

Everyone thought Frank mad to pay so much for an engine then when the going rate was about £ 25, but Monty is a very late engine on pressed on rubbers and had done nothing
except a few seasons threshing during the war, and prior to that its first owners were the Englefield Estate near Reading. It was only 20 years old and like new.

Tanners offered both Fowlers for about £150 but Frank wasn`t interested in CYNORTHWYWR because of its non-standard front wheels . These, we were told were supplied by Sentinel - what happened to the original wheels I don`t know . Frank did buy a Garrett Tractor from Tanners . Monty was retubed in Tanner`s yard and then driven back to Hartlebury, near Kidderminster, towing the Garrett.

My part in all this was as a young teenager sitting in the firebox, helping to knock the old tubes out and expanding the new ones in - the start of my apprenticeship in steam.

MARK
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Mike Llywellyn showed me a box brownie photograph of an unknown (to him) Fowler Road Loco with Dick Tanner driving (he recognised him), turns out the Fowler was 15376, Bridsons engine.

Can anyone tell me whay happened, Did Tanners have 15376 on hire?, or did Dick Tanner drive a season for Bridsons?

Any ideas George/Mark??
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The Green's roller needs new bearings, the gear teeth are bottoming out rather than meshing correctly; leading to very rough running. No sooner had the decision been taken to look at the problem than the rear wheels were off; those Klondyke lads don't mess about.
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p.s. Excellent pictures; thanks for posting minicoper.
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Mike Llywellyn showed me a box brownie photograph of an unknown (to him) Fowler Road Loco with Dick Tanner driving (he recognised him), turns out the Fowler was 15376, Bridsons engine.

Can anyone tell me whay happened, Did Tanners have 15376 on hire?, or did Dick Tanner drive a season for Bridsons?

Any ideas George/Mark??
The Tanners drove 15376 (and others) as far as i can tell up to the end of the second world war during the summer on tarspraying jobs, i think i have a picture of George Tanner with others next to 68754, the Marshall is hotting tar in the days before oil fireing so it must have been taken before 1932, another chap (Bob) looks very young so it could easly have been taken in the second half of the 1920's. But as usual the picture is very small and a bit dog eared !!.

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