Bill targett steam and vintage rally

[McLaren2]

After a two year absence, plans are going ahead for our 2022 event.
We are moving to a new site in the South Downs National Park on 14th-15th May.
More details to follow.

[LiveSteam]

Already got my form filled in and returned

[Fowler_19045]

Good morning,

I heard yesterday, that there is a chance that this event was going to be cancelled.
Is there any truth to this, as I am not on Facebook I wouldn't have seen any updates on there?


Many thanks,

Dan

[steamy1]

This is what it says on Facebook,


"1 March at 21:18 ·
We regret to inform you that the Bill Targett Rally 2022 has been cancelled. Unfortunately the change of location has raised complications with circumstances beyond our control. We are deeply saddened by this however we are looking ahead to 2023 and finally getting our rally running again. "

[avelingporter]

I have heard from a miniature section exhibitor that he has been told its off. The reason he was given was that they could not get a council licence in time.

[C.M.FANCE]

"The reason he was given was that they could not get a council licence in time".

What council licence do rallies need, other than for the beer tent ?

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by C.M.FANCE

"The reason he was given was that they could not get a council licence in time".

What council licence do rallies need, other than for the beer tent ?

Theres piles of stuff councils can need for this kind of thing unfortunately, having organized years of small public music events locally in a open space which we werent even charging any fee for was immense, so I can only imagine whats required for a paid for event with live steam, stalls and so on.
I think we use to start in September the year before, for the first event in late March. Remember most Rallies are run entirely by volunteers
Given they didnt have a site until very recently I can only imagine there just wasnt the time to put together everything in time.

Its shame as I was really looking forward to it.

[Earl Kitchener]

Originally Posted by C.M.FANCE

"The reason he was given was that they could not get a council licence in time".

What council licence do rallies need, other than for the beer tent ?

None as a Steam Rally is not a licensable activity.

But they could need planning permission if the council object to the use of the 14/28 day permitted development right as they are quite entitled to do.

Even if they don't effectively for any series of events with moveable structures, market stalls and any kind of motor based activity the limit is 14 days.

If the land is used for any other events the days are counted from the minute the first vehicle enters the ground until the last leaves at each event and it is very easy to run out of time on a site without realising. Have four weekend events with set up days and you've had your lot really.

It's worth bearing in mind that somewhere nearby there almost certainly will be a 'professional objector' keeping count.

[the highwayman]

Originally Posted by Earl Kitchener

None as a Steam Rally is not a licensable activity.



It's worth bearing in mind that somewhere nearby there almost certainly will be a 'professional objector' keeping count.

The nutty lady from The Pony Club was telling Me of a 'Professional Objector' objecting on grounds of the 14/28 day permit, despite the objectors own Grand Daughter being an entrant.

[Earl Kitchener]

Originally Posted by the highwayman

The nutty lady from The Pony Club was telling Me of a 'Professional Objector' objecting on grounds of the 14/28 day permit, despite the objectors own Grand Daughter being an entrant.

I coined the phrase 'professional objector' for an article on planning years ago when it occurred to me that there were a number of local busybodies who objected to everything. I could name them all.

On the matter of SAGs as mentioned by Adam the word authority in this context is not quite accurate - they have of themselves no actual powers but eh various members might. It's another example of a sensible idea gone wrong but what's worse is that there is a real post-code lottery about how officious they can be and even worse they are totally unaccountable to anybody as an entity.