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Old 17th January 2022, 10:12 AM
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Default Bill targett steam and vintage rally

After a two year absence, plans are going ahead for our 2022 event.
We are moving to a new site in the South Downs National Park on 14th-15th May.
More details to follow.
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Old 17th January 2022, 07:45 PM
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Good morning,

I heard yesterday, that there is a chance that this event was going to be cancelled.
Is there any truth to this, as I am not on Facebook I wouldn't have seen any updates on there?


Many thanks,

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Old 3rd March 2022, 08:58 AM
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This is what it says on Facebook,


"1 March at 21:18 ·
We regret to inform you that the Bill Targett Rally 2022 has been cancelled. Unfortunately the change of location has raised complications with circumstances beyond our control. We are deeply saddened by this however we are looking ahead to 2023 and finally getting our rally running again. "
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I have heard from a miniature section exhibitor that he has been told its off. The reason he was given was that they could not get a council licence in time.
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"The reason he was given was that they could not get a council licence in time".

What council licence do rallies need, other than for the beer tent ?
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Old 3rd March 2022, 07:54 PM
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"The reason he was given was that they could not get a council licence in time".

What council licence do rallies need, other than for the beer tent ?
Theres piles of stuff councils can need for this kind of thing unfortunately, having organized years of small public music events locally in a open space which we werent even charging any fee for was immense, so I can only imagine whats required for a paid for event with live steam, stalls and so on.
I think we use to start in September the year before, for the first event in late March. Remember most Rallies are run entirely by volunteers
Given they didnt have a site until very recently I can only imagine there just wasnt the time to put together everything in time.

Its shame as I was really looking forward to it.
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"The reason he was given was that they could not get a council licence in time".

What council licence do rallies need, other than for the beer tent ?
None as a Steam Rally is not a licensable activity.

But they could need planning permission if the council object to the use of the 14/28 day permitted development right as they are quite entitled to do.

Even if they don't effectively for any series of events with moveable structures, market stalls and any kind of motor based activity the limit is 14 days.

If the land is used for any other events the days are counted from the minute the first vehicle enters the ground until the last leaves at each event and it is very easy to run out of time on a site without realising. Have four weekend events with set up days and you've had your lot really.

It's worth bearing in mind that somewhere nearby there almost certainly will be a 'professional objector' keeping count.
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None as a Steam Rally is not a licensable activity.



It's worth bearing in mind that somewhere nearby there almost certainly will be a 'professional objector' keeping count.



The nutty lady from The Pony Club was telling Me of a 'Professional Objector' objecting on grounds of the 14/28 day permit, despite the objectors own Grand Daughter being an entrant.
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Councils can stop shows. Its a fact.

There may not be licensing required but the SAG (Safety Advisory Group) present within all local authority areas do have a fair few powers as they comprise HSE, Fire, Police, etc.

These day many events have to present to a SAG in advance of running to prove their competence. It is primarily on council lands but they do have wider ranging authority.
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