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Old 1st April 2016, 01:46 PM
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Default Aveling and porter f type parts wanted 10344

Iam looking for parts to help rebuild aveling and porter 10344 we believe it to be its an f type piston valve presently a tractor any boiler fittings or tender fittings and gear change mechanism available please get in touch if any one has the original engine plate of 10344 and wish to repatriate it to its rightful engine that would be fantastic if it's still in existance
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Old 1st April 2016, 04:32 PM
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Being an E.C.C engine (my area of interest ) ... Royalty No.10344 (NO 5894) 10 ton F type was ordered new by Essex County Council in 1922 and spent most of its working life around Dunmow.

Will the engine be going back to roller form?
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Being an E.C.C engine (my area of interest ) ... Royalty No.10344 (NO 5894) 10 ton F type was ordered new by Essex County Council in 1922 and spent most of its working life around Dunmow.

Will the engine be going back to roller form?
So Dan - did this work with mine then. Both were Dunmow rollers. How many did the yard have, cause I thought NO1226 was there too for a while.
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Old 12th April 2016, 08:47 PM
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So Dan - did this work with mine then. Both were Dunmow rollers. How many did the yard have, cause I thought NO1226 was there too for a while.
Fairly certain yes, NO1224 spent most of its working life based Dunmow. I have NO1226 working in and around Colchester at least until the second world war.

A few of engines seemed to have swapped around during the war (My engine appears to have moved from Chelmsford depot to Newport during this period. My guess would be covering gaps for engines being used for war work.. airfields etc, hopefully will find some more evidence to support this in time.

Also when an engine needed major boiler work it was typically summoned to the Chelmsford central works depot and a replacement engine sent out.

NO5894 was sold off in 1954 with a few other rollers the council deemed 'non economical to repair’.
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Not sure if they are the same but would be worth following up on the slide valve Avelings being converted at the moment if the headstocks, rolls etc would fit your later machine. Be nice to see one of the ECC f types back in steam, with four of them surviving just about.

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Interesting - what's the story? It's not in the TER.
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Old 1st April 2016, 05:26 PM
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Interesting - what's the story? It's not in the TER.
Owned by ECC till mid 1950s and sold to Hardwicks, believe this was the engine that sat outside the sawmill at Blackgang chine for many years with the electric motor inside the firebox driving a belt around the flywheel?.

Just to add - not trying to hijack this thread!
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Old 1st April 2016, 07:09 PM
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no hijacking at all as we ourselves know very little apart from the Blackgang Chine ownership

so the engine is nearly back on home turf being only 14 to 15 miles from buntingford now a days run once back in steam
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Old 1st April 2016, 08:11 PM
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question of back to roller or not well its been a tractor now for over 36 yrs and some of that arguably commercially in the blackgang Saw Mill/Blackgang Chine and was in use commercially as a roller for only 28 yrs with ECC so its 50/50
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Old 7th April 2016, 07:20 AM
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It was never used commercially at the Blackgang chine sawmill other than being a glorified sign post.

The conversion was a basic one which to be honest looks pretty awful and would need to be re-done with new wheels, perch bracket etc to make it useable and anywhere near half decent looking.

Fingers crossed the engine is returned to original condition as an F type roller. I have some working day pictures I will happily share if it helps the owner in his decision to restore back to a roller.

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